Ne Win & Than Shwe

Ne Win    &     Than Shwe

   
 

INITIAL BATTLE-CRY

General Ne Win

 Burmese Way to Socialism

Senior General Than Shwe

 Nyein Pi (Law and Order) (SLORC) later only change to SPDC for propaganda.
 
AFFECTIONATELY KNOWN IN TEA SHOPS AS

General Ne Win

 No 1

Senior General Than Shwe
 Bawa Shin Min Tayar Gyi
 
Foreign Policy

General Ne Win


 He himself, self-imposed closed door policy because of Xenophobia

Senior General Than Shwe


 Because of disapproval of persecution political leaders including Daw Suu and suppression of NLD, failed to follow up with democratization and transfer of power there are economic sanctions and became pariah state
 
Most Famous/notorious Moment of Life

General Ne Win

 He stormed his daughters party western dancing at Inya Like hotel ruptured drum and assaulted all _

People called that as Thamada Lu Gyan. Thamada is president and Lu Gyan is villain. (Actually there was a famous group of Film actor-villains with the same name.
 
Senior General Than Shwe
He liked to watch football on TV but once Myanmar team lost and he ordered that he did not wish to see football on TV and since then Football shows are banned on Myanmar TV
 
Social life

General Ne Win


 Womanizer, playboy
 

Senior General Than Shwe
Seen to be loyal to his one wife because he is scared of her
 
Give favour to

General Ne Win


 Fellow natives of Pyae (Prome)
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Fellow natives of of Kyauk Sae
 
Foolish moments under the spell of Astrologers

General Ne Win


 He and the whole cabinet dressed as baggers and queue to bag while walking backwards at Pagan. Rumored to marry young teenage virgins  to regain youthful health
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Than Shwe let his wife Daw Kying Kying to marry Lu Min. Sold off all the government’s GOLD (SHWE) to declare there is no more Shwe, to ward off the end of SHWE (himself). Than Shwe and top three Junta, wearing Burmese Tha Mee (ladies skirts)  donate and recorded at a pagoda as danated by Daw Than Shwe, Daw Khin Nyunt and Daw Aye because the astrologer
 
Indelible black mark in life

General Ne Win


 Instead of buying ammunitions to fight rebels Ne Win spent on prostitutes in England and brought back one of them and kept on the island in Inya lake. Even reporters got the news and PM U Nu had to order him to send back that foreign prostitute.(U Nu’s Tar Tae Sa Nae Thar book)
 
Senior General Than Shwe
One of his comrade wrote to him an open letter revealing his cowardliness by revealing that during the battle against communists he Bo Than Shwe was scared and remained in the bunker against the order of General Tin Oo(now NLD) while Bo Saw Maung fought with courage
 
Hobby

General Ne Win


 Betting at Horse racing but banned in Burma
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Watching football, Korea and Chinese soap operas
 
English Language

General Ne Win


 Very fluent as studied in Rangoon University for two years during the colonial times
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Tried to avoid speaking English as his accent smells Nga Pi or Fish Paste
 
Vacation

General Ne Win


 Europe
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Forced to satisfy with Local vacation because of Visa restriction
 
Medical Treatment

General Ne Win


 UK Switzerland
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Mingaladon and Singapore
 
NOT SO WELL relation WITH

General Ne Win

 No 1 1/2 and 2 Dismissed Aung Gyi, Tin Pe, Two Tin Oos
 
Senior General Than Shwe
No 2Not in good relation with Maung Aye. No 3 Tin Oo was suspected to be assassinated
 
International recognition

General Ne Win

 The whole world accepted his legitimacy
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Most of the world questioned his legitimacy
 
Above Ground Opposition

General Ne Win
 Nil
 
Senior General Than Shwe
NLD SNLD etc
 
Corruption in family
General Ne Win
 Except for plundering the FE, Gold & Jewelry
 
Senior General Than Shwe
All the family members are known to be corrupt and taking bribes. Even his daughter Khin Thandar Shwe was renamed by the people to Khin Thandar Sein because of solicitation of Diamond gifts at her recent wedding


Corruption of wife(s)

General Ne Win
 Except for stealing the best jewelry the first previews of jewelry shows no much news of taking bribes
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Done the same thing, famous for taking bribes and official gate keeper asking fees even from other Generals who wish to see Than shwe.
 
 
 
Involvement in business by family members
General Ne Win
 Never allowed very strictly

Senior General Than Shwe
 All the families, relatives, friends, legal and illegal in laws are involved almost all the business 
 
Children

General Ne Win
 All the children are trained to be polite, soft spoken, not arrogant and had well manners but grandchildren ruined all those reputations and became gangsters terrorizing the Yangon residences.
 
Senior General Than Shwe
All the children are arrogant, proud and greedy for favours and bribes
 
Government Contracts

General Ne Win
 Never given to cronies
 
Senior General Than Shwe
All given to cronies
 
Marital status

General Ne Win

  1. Daw Tin Tin,
  2. Daw Khin May Than (wife of Dr Toke Gyi)

  3. Daw Ni Ni Myint

  4. Yadana Nat Mae

  5. Ni Ni win again
  6. and numerous others.
     

Senior General Than Shwe
Monopolized by Daw Kyaing
Kyaing, widow. But Daw Kyaing Kyaing married Lu Min.
 
Children

General Ne Win
 They took advantage mostly in examinations.
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Shopping local/overseas, taking bribes, contracts, toll gate collection from all who want to see Than Shwe
 
Marital Status of Children
General Ne Win
 All married once with dignity
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Daughters are notorious for the affairs with married men
 
BACK UP by MI

General Ne Win
 Quite OK
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Could not trust MI and later disbanned
 
Political GAME STRATEGY

General Ne Win
 BSPP successfully tricked the citizens and the whole world by keeping the power from his one pocket to another
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Flip-Flop and the whole population of Myanmar and the world knew that he is lying and took the power illegally
 
Party depended upon

General Ne Win
 BSPP, Military men were disguised as civilians to monopolize the Party and governing councils

 

Senior General Than Shwe

 National Unity Party, the turncoat of the former BSPP is not very prominent but the Military men are occupying almost all the places in central and local government positions.
 
Second base

General Ne Win
 Union Solidarity and Development Association started during the first 1957 Military Government
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Present Union Solidarity and Development Association reused that same name, logo, badges and same constitution and Than Shwe headed the organization and the main mover of grassroots. Notorious in committing Depayin massacre
 
Nationalization

General Ne Win
 All the business, factories etc
 
Senior General Than Shwe
(Re)Nationalized only one, ie Mandalay Beer factory, but Privatized many factories and business to families cronies
 
Monetary policy

General Ne Win
 Withdraw big denominator bank notes to rob the money from people
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Massive printing of 1000 Kyat notes to bring down the money value in the hands of people
 
Banknotes

General Ne Win
 Curiously printed 15.00 and 45.00 Kyat notes because of astrologer’s advice. Withdrew 50, 100 Kyat notes
 
Senior General Than Shwe
General Aung San’s pictures disappear totally from all the bank notes.
 
FE

General Ne Win
 1 USD=6 Kyats
 
Senior General Than Shwe
1 USD=1300++ Kyats
 
Using General Aung San

General Ne Win
 Ne Win use General Aung San to legalize his rule infront of the people
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Because of Daw Suu’s popularity, her father General Aung San is virtually banned from all the government actions and propaganda machines.
 
Personal relationship

General Ne Win
 New Win hand picked Than Shwe for all the promotion
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Than Shwe pay back by putting Ne Win and his daughter under house arrest, jailed 2 grandchildren and son in law
 
Withdrawal from International organization
General Ne Win
 Non Allied movement
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Joined back Non Allied movement,  but would be willing to withdrae from ILO, ASEAN and even UN
 
ASEAN

General Ne Win
 Refused to join ASEAN
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Joined ASEAN
 
Economy

General Ne Win
 During U Nu’s time Burma was second in Asia after Japan but ruined by Ne Win
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Than Shwe had completed Ne Win’s unfinished job. Now Myanmar became a pariah state, poor, disease infested, rebel roamed in the capital carrying guns and politically bankrupted.
 
Favourite book

General Ne Win
 Mein Kemp by Adolph Hitler
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Translated biography and news of Milosevic, Kim Il Sun and Saadam Hussein
 
Relations with North Korea

General Ne Win
 Stopped Diplomatic relations after Azani bombing by its agents
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Started Diplomatic relations to get Nuclear know-how and rocket technology
 
Relations with Kuomintang Taiwan

General Ne Win
 Stopped Diplomatic relations after invasion of its army into Burma territory

 
Senior General Than Shwe
Secretly allow the Taiwan investors to invest in Myanmar
 
Crazy for attaing a royalty status

General Ne Win
 Married Yatanar Nat Mae to became a Royalty but failed
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Daydreamed to be the descendent of King Thi Baw
 
Favourite Picture

General Ne Win
 War movies and love stories
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Football matches only
 
FAV QUOTE
General Ne Win
 “Socialist Military dictators rule the world by proxy”
 
Senior General Than Shwe
“Sons-in-law rule the world by proxy”
 
Race

General Ne Win
 Illegitimate son of a Hokkein Chinese man (given the pregnant maid to Burmese worker) became pure blood Burmese
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Pure Burmese Buddhists but married to Pao-Chinese wife
 
Military Rank

General Ne Win
 General
 
Senior General Than Shwe
 
Military Strength

General Ne Win
 100,000

 
Senior General Than Shwe
500,000
 
Capital

General Ne Win
 Rangoon was extended up to Dagon new suburban township
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Rangoon is renamed Yangon and shifted or run away to the new capital, Pyinmana naming Nay Pyi Daw
 
Astrology

General Ne Win
 superstitious
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Same superstitious
 
    
Success of Propaganda

General Ne Win
 Not bad at first failed at later part of the administration only. Smile occasionally
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Propaganda is bad although known as Psycho-warfare specialist. Used to stay with a frond face.
 
Personality

General Ne Win
 Generally disliked by the people but somewhat got a some what presentable look
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Generally disliked by the people and somewhat got a some what ugly look
 
CROWD CONTROL

General Ne Win
 Lone Htein, Dog Unit, tanks and military given shoot to kill order
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Same Lone Htein, Dog Unit, tanks and military given shoot to kill order
 
BACK-UP

General Ne Win
 BSPP,council and MI
 
Senior General Than Shwe
National Unity Party and USDA
 
DISLIKES
General Ne Win
 Ethnic Minorities, Kalas, Buddhist Monks,Christians and Rohingyas
 
Senior General Than Shwe
NLD, Daw Suu, Ethnic Minorities, Kalas, Buddhist Monks,Christians and Rohingyas
 
FAV MOVIES
General Ne Win
 Police Story 1 – 5, Serpico
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Jaws, Loan Shark, Mean Streets,m Chinese and Korea martial arts soap operas
 
Economy


General Ne Win
 From the second best in Asia when he took over to became one of the poorest countries in the world.
 

Senior General Than Shwe
From the one of the poorest countries in the world to poorest country in the world.
 
Health of the citizens
General Ne Win
 Overall health conditions deteriorate
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Overall health conditions deteriorated and HIV Hepatitis and Pulmonary TB spread uncontrollably
 
Number of doctors in the country

General Ne Win
 “More than enough” doctors and specialists and newly graduated doctors had to wait for few years to be posted in government jobs. Ne Win even thought there were more than enough specialists and limited to 1-2 persons in each field for postgraduate studies internally  and abroad.
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Because of emigration and exodus of various Medical personals, there is no enough doctors in the country and nowadays Military Junta even made a new law to stop issuing Passports to doctors
 
Laws

General Ne Win
 There was at least Law and Order and rule of Law at least on paper as his government could draw a constitution in less than a year and people voted for it
 
Senior General Than Shwe
There is no Law and Order nor rule of Law even at least on paper as his government could not finish drawing a sham constitution up to now and people would definitely vote to reject that.
 
Constitution

General Ne Win
 At least people accepted him, his government and his constitution in elections and referendum
 
Senior General Than Shwe
1990 Elections clearly indicated that the whole population reject Military Dominence and supported Daw Suu led NLD.
 
Prices of goods


General Ne Win
 Slow and steady inflation.

1 Pyi of Rice went up to 3-5 Kyat at highest peaks
 Uncontrollable rapid rise of inflation

Senior General Than Shwe
1 Pyi of Rice went up to 500+++Kyats
 
Black Market

General Ne Win
 Ne Win era forced Burmese to start the Black Market business. Smuggling across the border is limited to small scale enterprises.
 
Senior General Than Shwe
No more Black Market business but grey market only. Smuggling across the border is expended into large scale enterprises,
 
Queue for an earning
General Ne Win
 Widely practiced
 
Senior General Than Shwe
In limited fields only eg Petrol
 
Rebels
General Ne Win
 All underground
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Mixed underground and Peace negotiated
 
Mass movement of foreigners

General Ne Win
 Cause mass exodus of Indians
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Nowadays there is mass migration of Chinese into Myanmar
 
Emigration

General Ne Win
 Limited professionals and very few manual workers but mostly off-shore sailors working abroad
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Numerous professionals many manual workers, a lot of off-shore sailors working abroad legally or illegally.
 
Refugees

General Ne Win
 Some at Thailand and Bangladesh borders
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Millions around the world
 
Petrol prices

General Ne Win
 2.6 Kyats/gallon
 
Senior General Than Shwe
The increase in the price of gasoline to 6,500 kyats a gallon
 
Salary

General Ne Win
 Gazetted Government Servant’s salary started fro 450-700 Kyat scale
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Because of inflation and almost Useless Kyats Notes, salary range from 50,000 to 600,000 Kyats
 
Passports

General Ne Win
 Difficult to get PP, endorsement limited to 2-3 countries

 
Senior General Than Shwe
Easy to get PP, endorsement unlimited to all countries
 
Universities
General Ne Win
 Restructuring of Universities to divide the student population

 
Senior General Than Shwe
New Universities open. Quality compromised for Quantity. Universities opened in small towns at suburbs and across the bridges to made it easy to control the student protest
 
Hostels
General Ne Win
 Provided for the students
 
Senior General Than Shwe
No more hostels for boarding University Students
 
Problems of students

General Ne Win
 There were a lot of problems but much better than the present condition
 
Senior General Than Shwe
There are a lot problems because of above two. Had to spend a lot of time and money to be able to attend universities and forced to just attend the open universities by post.
 
Recognition of different class of people


General Ne Win
 Ne Win at least try to pretend to promote—

  1. Workers with May day celebration, workers council, workers comferences.

  2. Farmers with Farmer’s day (but 2nd March was his coup day. Farmers council and conferences.

  3. Students with student’s festival, sports, Outstanding Student(Lu Yae Chun) programme etc

  4. Sangas with Sanga conference etc
     

Senior General Than Shwe
So call Psychological Warfare specialist Than Shwe abandoned all those classes and blatantly aimed for the Military domination only.
 
Celebrating important days

General Ne Win
 Ne Win celebrated, Independence days, Martyr’s day and above “class” representatives’ days.
 
Senior General Than Shwe
So call Psychological Warfare specialist Than Shwe abandoned all those celebrations because 1/ there is no Independence for the people so changed to Tatmadaw day.2/He scared of revolution  3/ He hate and scared of Daw Aung San Suu Kyi and her father General Aung San. So no more Azarni days or Martyrs’ day.
 
Social activities

General Ne Win
 Ne Win at least attended above two events, give speech, dine and talk together
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Than Shwe just sent the representatives to any celebration even if that was still celebrating. He is a social outcast!
 
Teenage workers

General Ne Win
 Because of above four
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Because of above four conditions many teenage children are working internally and abroad. There is increased in teenage military enlistings
 
Most notorious shot

General Ne Win
 If Military is called again to control the uprising people, they would not shoot in the air but will shoot straight (to kill)
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Aung San Suu Kyi and NLD is dangerous for the country and both of them must be annihilated.
 
Forced to Resigned by

General Ne Win
 8888 movement
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Coming soon, pressure is building up with revered monks uprising and his brutal repression.
 
Ultimate downfall triggered by

General Ne Win
 Grandchildren and son in law
 
Senior General Than Shwe
Would be trigger by daughters and illegitimate son-in-law
 
Peoples’ comment


General Ne Win
 Condition under General Ne Win was much better than the present
 
Senior General Than Shwe
If we all know the worsening condition under Than Shwe we would not start 8888 movement to overthrow Ne Win.
 

MAHA BANDULA

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Comments

D.L. said _

I think Than Shwe is reported to be crazy about watching Chinese Kung Fu movies also.

A.S. said _

I wonder how these 500,000 military force has to obey him. What makes people around him afraid of him. This is time that people and soldiers should unite and fight for democracy. But the problem is some bastards want to be hero for him

Maung Maung said _

General Ne Win was best leader after U Nu despite his personal life and economic policy i.e. nationalization without second thought and education policy. Multi party will not suit in our Country, anyway I personally praise General Ne Win, why I’m doing that? In front of me past and present, I seen both period so this is my observation, I’m sure some will agree with me.

 

 

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