1001 Malaysia Nights – DSAI interview Part V

1001 Malaysian Nights

(DSAI interview Part V)


His Excellency Datuk Sri Anwar Ibrahim… 1001 Malaysian Nights? What? I only agreed in your dreams, to day dream my dream interview. What do you mean? What is your Game Plan or Dream Plan?

It would be not nice if you derail into other topics rather than Burmese Politics as you had given promise, not in your dreams only, but to my lawyer, my friends, sent to my web site and me. What’s up? Your Dream Interview here in Malaysia is going to the extent of 1001 Arabian Nights?

BURMA DIGEST: I am dreaming only. Although I could day dream any time, the dreams are actually basically or originally associated with nights and sleeps.

Chuang Tzu once said, “Once I dreamed I was a butterfly, and now I no longer know whether I am Chuang Tzu, who dreamed I was a butterfly, or whether I am a butterfly dreaming that I am Chuang Tzu.”

DSAI… (Many Malaysians affectionately referred Datuk Sri Anwar Ibrahim as DSAI.) Oh! you are going to copy the strategy of the 1001 Arabian Nights’ initial story framer Scheherazade, new bride of the Persian king, Shahryar.

That king, Shahryar would marry a new virgin, and every day he would send yesterday’s wife to be beheaded. This was done in anger, having found out that his first wife had betrayed him. He had killed three thousand such women by the time he was introduced to Scheherazade, the vizier’s daughter. Starting from the first night of their marriage, Scheherazade tells the king a tale, but does not end it. The king is thus forced to keep her alive in order to hear the conclusion.

The new queen, Scheherazade, supposed to be executed in the next morning, used cliffhangers so that the king’s curiosity about the sequel would buy her another day of life. At the end the king had to give his wife a pardon.

But I had noticed that our dream interviews sequel is quite boring and no cliffhangers to attract the readers.

BURMA DIGEST: No wonder Datuk Sri, people praise you for the wide General Knowledge. Yes, I am just trying to copy her skills of manipulating her day dreams (should rather be called night dreams because she told her stories at nights) or well planned excellent strategic or dream stories that successfully could save her life. For me, I am just trying to save our country, Burma’s political life with my meager pen and inadequate skills and knowledge.

DSAI…So, what do you want? Don’t just praise me too much just to get a chance of a real interview.

BURMA DIGEST: This is good enough for me, Datuk Sri. I am satisfied with this virtual chat. Alhamdulillah. I am just thinking aloud about my plans, aims or daydreams coming true.

DSAI…Be careful! Sometimes you may think in the dreams that you were really in the real world, experiencing all alife. Sometimes the real world is like a dream, not predictable.

BURMA DIGEST: I heard the people commenting about Datuk Sri’s dream and accepted that their views about how to achieve that goal is correct. Sorry Datuk Sri, I should not touch this sensitive subject as I had already promised you that we should discuss about Burmese politics only.

DSAI…I understand that you are scared to start this topic as you are just a foreigner. I think you are just going to repeat what almost all the people I met in the real world are telling. Go on, OK, I am ready to listen. By the way, are you going to suggest me to try to pull the two biggest and popular opposition parties on to my stage? Yes, if I could successfully made those two opposing Islamic and Secular Democratic Chinese party to sit together on my political platform, Insyaallah, we could be able to made a régime change here.

BURMA DIGEST: Please don’t take it an insult. For us, Burmese citizens, Malaysia is million of times better than our own home, not only in the socio-economic conditions but politically also. Even some of the undocumented migrant workers and unrecognized refugees said that staying here illegally is even safer and peaceful than back home in Myanmar under SPDC Military Government. And the seven steps to . . .

DSAI…Are you going to say it is like “Winter dreams of unfinished painting”, a great song and movie of Win Oo. I think he is the P. Ramlee of Burma, but never received the proper recognition he deserved because of his political affiliation.

SPDC Military Government’s promised Seven Steps to the “Disciplined Democracy” is like General Ne Win promised “Socialist Paradise on Earth”.

SPDC Military Government is only hoodwinking the whole world with their “Mirage Paradise” and their seven steps road map is just leading the Burmese citizens to the “Misery Mire Labyrinth”.

Now your Ethnic brothers who are searching for the “True Democracy” are in the “Mid Winter dreams” and your Union of Federal Democratic Burma dream is like the “unfinished painting.”

I highly suspect that the SPDC Junta will never try to finish their “Fake road map to Democracy” painting.

BURMA DIGEST: Bravo! Datuk Sri. I never expect you to know all these…

DSAI…Very easy, if you know the secret. If there is a will there is a way. After my supper, before going to sleep last night and talking you in the dream, not in my dream but yours, I went through your weblog. And I read your article No 101, “Winter dreams of unfinished painting!”

BURMA DIGEST: Thank You Datuk Sri, see you in the next dream.

DSAI…TQ, good bye.

Dream Interview with DSAI Part IV


Dream Interview with DSAI

Part IV


BURMA DIGEST: Dear Datuk Sri, thank Your Honour for allowing to continue interviewing you in my day dreams. Let’s continue the topics we were discussing in the last article. Is poverty the cause of lack of Human Rights?

H. E. Datuk Sri Anwar Ibrahim… Yes, I agree with you. I noticed that we should discuss in detail about the relations of poverty and the lack of Human Rights.



UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour had rightly stated that_

Today, poverty prevails as the gravest human rights challenge in the world.

  • Combating poverty,

  • deprivation

  • and exclusion

_is not a matter of charity,

_and it does not depend on how rich a country is.

By tackling poverty as a matter of human rights obligation, the world will have a better chance of abolishing this scourge in our lifetime…

Poverty eradication is an achievable goal.

Poverty is a cause and a product of human rights violations. It is this double edge that makes poverty probably the gravest human rights challenge in the world. The links between human rights and poverty are obvious :

1. People whose rights are denied — victims of discrimination or persecution, for example — are more likely to be poor.

2. Generally they find it harder or impossible to participate in the labour market and have little or no access to basic services and resources.

3. Meanwhile, the poor in many societies cannot enjoy their rights to education, health and housing simply because they cannot afford them.

4. And poverty affects all human rights: for example, low income can prevent people from accessing education — an “economic and social” right –

5. which in turn inhibits their participation in public life — a “civil and political” right — and their ability to influence policies affecting them.

6. Yet, poverty is still rarely seen thought the lens of human rights. Rather it is often perceived as tragic but inevitable, and even as the responsibility of those who suffer it. At best those living in poverty — countries and individuals — are portrayed as unfortunate, at worst as lazy and undeserving.

7. The reality is different. Many ingredients go into making poverty, but factors like discrimination, unequal access to resources, and social and cultural stigmatization have always characterized it.

8. These “factors” have another name: the denial of human rights and human dignity. What’s more, these are factors governments and those in a position of authority can, indeed are obliged to, do something about. The realization of human rights – including the fight against poverty — is a duty, not a mere aspiration.

Question… Burmese famous poet U Ti Moe said_“Military rule is like a Plitical HIV/AIDS”. Do you agree Datuk Seri? Recently Video tapes of wedding of the Senior General Than Shwe’s daughter, was even shown on BBC and CNN. There are news that she got about US Dolar 50 million What will happen if there is a true democracy?

Answer… In the full democracy countries, it would sound the alarm bells in all the branches of administration, judiciary and should become a jucy news for the independent media to start a relentless attack and investigative journalism. But in Myanmar there maybe a deafning silence.

In any full democracies or even in flawed democracies and the hybrid regimes (except for the authoritarian regimes like present SPDC Military Regeme) such serious corruption by the top leader of a country would have caused instant public uproar, with the mass media relentlessly pursuing the culprit and law enforcement agencies such as the anti-corruption agency, Special Branch, attorney general and the respective police moving in to investigate and prosecute. Such series of events will definitely lead to the resignation of the culprit or the corrupt politician, followed by open prosecution. If there is a undeniable video evidence as you said, there is no alternative but to resign gracefully for the corrupt leader.

Question…Datuk Sri, how do you see the future “Guided or Disciplined democracy” under the doctrine of “Permanent dominance of Myanmar Military”.

Answer… In all the countries around the world, even civilian Defense Ministers are always placed above the whole Military i.e. above the top Generals or Chief of Staff.

1. Military are the arms and legs of the people trained to fight, kill, defend and obey the people and the country. They should not be the masters or leaders of the country. 2. Politicians people had chosen to represent them are the brain or the persons to lead and decide for every thing.

3. The Military Personals are taught to just obey the orders.

4. So even to start or stop the war, politician civilian leaders have to decide.

5. The Senior Generals’ view must be taken into consideration but they must obey the civilian government’s orders.

6. Nevertheless, after all, even the Democratic Governments must be regarded to be employees of the people, elected and given salary to govern the country as the people’s reprensentatives.

7. Military leaders and even Democratic Government Leaders must stop thinking and behaving like the masters of the people.

8. I could not see any chance of transforming to real and meaningful participatory democracy when:

  • 25% of he seats are reserved for Myanmar Military. And they wrote in the constitution that
  • the President must have 15 years of military experience and

  • Defense Minister’s status is equal to the Deputy President.

  • The Myanmar Generals are actually planning for the total and permanent dominance of the military in their so called “guided democracy”

  • They even want to legalize the future military coups as their legimitate rights given by the people enshrined in the constitution.

9. So the future role of ordinary Burmese Citizens are sure to be degraded to just confirming or approving the showcase of sham elections not unlike the elections under communists and dictators.

10. The SPDC is going to stream-rolled the so-called seven steps to democracy with their tanks.

Burma Digest: Thank you very much Datuk Sri for the chance to have this dream interview. Do you wish to say any thing as an advise to Burmese people or the SPDC?

H. E. Datuk Sri Anwar Ibrahim…Well, Although I am a Muslim, I used to read a lot on all the religions of the world. It may be appropriate if I used this saying which is well known amongst Burmese Buddhists.

We avoid charity because we are poor?

Or are we poor because we refrain from charity?

I hope you all know the answer.

Human Rights and poverty are also related.

We need to ask whether we should be denied of the Human Rights because we are poor?

Are we continue to stay in poverty because we are denied of our Human Rights?

I strongly believe and pray that all the Burmese citizens could have a chance to taste the political freedom, socio-economic progress, wealth and could enjoy all the Human Rights and Individual Freedoms in a very near future.

Burma Digest: Thank you.