Opposition should recruit Zaid for the next generation democratic PM after future PM DSAI

 Opposition should recruit Zaid for the

next generation democratic PM

after future PM DSAI

GEORGE TOWN: The institutions of Government in the country are no longer neutral and this is causing democracy to crumble, said former de facto Law Minister Datuk Zaid Ibrahim.


“In a democracy, the institutions of government must be neutral and professionally run. You can’t have the police taking sides or the MACC (Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission) making statements supporting one side or the other.

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Early migrants, “Foreigners the bane of neighbours”




Foreigners the bane of neighbours

From ANOTHER WORRIED RESIDENT of Kuala Lumpur: I REFER to Worried Resident’s letter on “Disgusted by behaviour of foreign workers,” (The Star, Nov 9).

….Since then, we have had to put up with workers bathing, brushing teeth and washing their laundry in front of the house every day………..

Then both of you and the STAR editors who think it is fit to bash up poor foreign workers should all go back to INDIA, CHINA OR INDONESIA where your ancestors came. Because according to your logic and anti-foreigner concepts, your ancestors SHOULD ALSO SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO COME HERE, because all first generation migrants who are not professional migrants are dirty, doing dangerous and non-dignified low pay jobs that the locals shun.


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A Clown Frog that get a frequent Midas Touch to morph

A Clown Frog that get a frequent Midas Touch to morph


Dog food may be good for the frogs but every body knows that it is not suitable for Rajas. Don’t be jealous about food for Rajas. You are welcome to join him.

His words are always wise but your comments are universally rubbish. I don’t know why some of the clowns were appointed as Information ministers in IRAQ, NAZI GERMANY AND MYANMAR etc..

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Dear MPs Don’t learn this from Taiwan and Try At Home!

Taiwan legislators from the DPP and Kuomintang fight in Parliament in Taipei. Lawmakers from the ruling and opposition parties failed to agree on how an independent National Communications Commission, set up to monitor the media, should be formed.

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The essence of my struggle is for all the Myanmar Muslims

Dear readers,

                     I am not associated to any party or any politician but campaigning as a lone ranger for_

  1. All groups of Burmese Muslims/Myanmar Muslims inside and outside Myanmar.
  2. All the Myanmar/Burmese citizens to get, democracy, respect of Human Rights, to eradicate Racial and Religious Discriminations.
  3. All Myanmars including Burmese Muslims to get fair and equal treatment every where.

I hope some readers from the powerful political party should not take offence at my blog postings as my actual and only essence of aim is for all the Muslims of Myanmar/Burma.

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PR status and citizenships for foreign spouses

 PR status & citizenship for foreign spouses 

Copy and paste from YB Lim Kit Siang’s web page

(The following is the reply given in Parliament by the Home Minister, Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar yesterday to my question on the long-standing PR problem. Lets have your reaction as to whether you find the answer satisfactory or not. It was given as a written answer as the question did not come up for oral reply during the 90-minute Question Time. It was placed No. 49 out of 95 questions yesterday, which saw only eight questions answered on the floor during the Question Time.)

40 Responses to “PR status & citizenship for foreign spouses”

  1. taiking Says:
    I thought the process is a simple and quick one.
    I had the chance to meet some indons workers in a friend’s business premises.
    They had malaysian PR ICs.
    “Senang saja” was their reply.
    “Cepat” some said.
    “Cuma ujian Bahasa Malaysia” seems to be the only hurdle.
    I did not realise that Malaysia has for a long time already progressed to a developed nation status.
    Like UK and Australia, Malaysian immigration policy favours labourers and not professionals.
    You know, construction workers, cleaners, etc.
    That explains why highly qualified foreign spouses could not get their PR ICs.
    Now with all rules and regulations, there are always loopholes.
    Next time try this.
    I know that you may be a consultant this and that.
    Or professor this or that.
    Or nobel prize nominee for what and what.
    Never mind all those.
    Want to be malaysia PR.
    Easy. Just get yourself a job as a cleaner in one of the public carpark anywhere in the country.
    In your application form, remember to state your job as “CLEANER”.
    That will score you some good points.
    Happy applying.
    Remember. Its not that difficult.
  2. zona_marie Says:
    at least a 12 year PR holder prior to getting citizenship?? my mum waited 13 years before she even got her PR!

sir, i think your question should have been – how many applications are awaiting processing to obtain a PR in the last 20 years? vs how many APPROVED applications there have been in the last 20 years? that way you can likely see how ineffective they’ve been. i don’t remember any bahasa malaysia test for my mum nor police checks either. does it take 13 years to get a police check?

  1. cheng on soo Says:
    They should be reasonable, and humane, say those who hv stayed 4 years, and had raised, Msian child(ren), be given PR status.
    look like they only want general labourers, cleaners, who are Muslim, & speak only, BM or Bahasa Indon.
    look like , Msia Immig will not grant PR to ppl (qualified) who applied officially, but can sell PR to ppl (muslim) who go for backdoor, or bribe the right person etc.
    So anybody seriously interested, just get a Muslim name, can pretend to be a Muslim, and can learn to speak BM, then it should ok to go to Sabah to buy one PR
  2. sammychong Says:the rules are quite strict which i think is good enough to both for the foreigners and the rakyat in malaysia…but do the authorities really following the procedures by the rules?for the past 3 years, i saw the amount of foreigners is going huge..crowding in our big cities like kl, shah alam, klang, putrajaya and so on. how about the crimes commited by the foreigners which are killing, raping, robbing, and whatsoever…we citizens are now becoming more afraid and worried about the population of foreigner would be outnumbering us in 5 to 10 years ahead…what say u?is this about the rules made or about the lacking actions of the authorities?
  1. kun9999 Says:
    Well I guess the delay for getting PR is because of incompetence government officials or they want applicant to give them coffee money. In developed country like Singapore, it will only take approximately 3 month for the applicant to know their result for the PR application (source:http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=151&secid=150). In Malaysia it would take 6 month for the applicant to know the result (source:

If you look into Malaysia Immigration website http://www.imi.gov.my you can’t really find a clear guideline to apply for PR. But if you look into Singapore Immigration website http://www.ica.gov.sg you can find a very clear guideline on how to apply for PR.

I wonder why can’t Malaysia govt be as competence as Singapore govt. As a citizen of Malaysia, I really ashame of competency level of the govt.

The answer given by Home Minister on applicant can’t be contacted / didn’t follow up also didn’t make much sense as most applicant are very serious in their application.

Delay/reject in the PR application also cause professional spouse unable to work and i guess this is what the government want in order to protect their own “lazy” people.

  1. UnkerLai Says:
    I know of a few foreigners who have been here for the past 20 years, running successful business, yet unable to obtain PR, simply because they refuse to bribe their way through.
    All this talk of screening and procedures are bollocks. Money is the BeeEnd’s only criteria, if the applicant is a non-muslim.
  2. Tulip Crescent Says:
    I have a sister-in-law who applied for permanent residence. She is a university graduate.

The last time I knew, she was back in her country after having raised her two children from her womb till they managed to get their degrees overseas.

Both the Malaysian children are now working overseas as well. As for the Malaysian husband, who the United Nations used to call on to do some work overseas while he was working in Malaysia, he is working overseas as well.

Of course, she never got her permanent residence after more than 20 years of apply. She remains an applicant, I guess, in the grand tradition of the Barisan Nasional.

This is the kind of hanky-panky that our politicians teach our bureaucrats to do. Why do you think even our bureaucrats have had enough of their nonsense?

  1. unknowngrouse Says:
    If you have the proper kulitfication its no problem getting PR status. One Indon I know even got a blue IC ! No matter have qualified you are if you are not Muslim and do not have the right colour you can forget about it. Got a Malaysian friend whose wife is Singaporean teacher (of course she can’t teach here). His kids are born here so they got their citizenship. However the wife who’s been living with him for over 20 years here still has no PR status although she has applied countless number of times until she gave up Wanna guess race?
  2. kun9999 Says:
    No point in applying Malaysia PR with such a lazy or money thirsty govt, it would be better to apply for PR from neighbouring country for which they very welcome foreign talent & entrepreneur etc that can contribute to their society.
  1. badcliq Says:
    This is no excuse for incompetency of the Government!

Look at how long the process take for other countries! Aus, NZ, etc

Are they saying other countries have crap PRs that will threaten the national security, just because their regulations are not as “strict” or “good” as M’sia?

He mentioned people changed address, etc…couldn’t be contacted…well, not strange! If the process took nearly 2 decades!!

  1. dr suresh kumar Says:
    Dear YB Kit,

I have only this to say to Syed Hamid:He is just wasting his ink in writing the above reply.

He could have saved his time by just saying that non-muslims and non-malays are not welcome.

The policy of this government is designed to discourage non muslim migrants,thats how I see it.Not only they welcome Indonesian labourers ,they have also indirectly contributed to increase in crime in the country.All these just to increase the number of malay population in the country.

The government doesn’t seem to realize that one of the yardsticks in measuring the development of a country is the actual increase in the population of her minorities and not decrease like what is happening to the Chinese and Indian populations at home.Look here in Australia,they have a crsytal clear and transparent policy on the issues of emigrants.Its just a breeze thru to become a PR or a citizen if one meets their immigration law requirements.

  1. undergrad2 Says:
    Qualifications to become citizens:


1. Continuous physical residence for a minimum period of 12 years;
2. Intention to reside permanently;
3. A person of good moral character, and
4. Proficient in the Malay language.

United States

1. Continuous residence as legal permanent resident for at least five years preceding the date of application
2. Physically present during that period totaling at least half the time
3. A person of good moral character
4. Understanding of the English language( ability to speak, read and write) and the fundamentals of U.S. history, principles of government of the U.S.

*It is harder to naturalize and become U.S. citizens. But then why are there so few qualified applicants who have been granted Malaysian citizenship when it is easier to naturalize?

  1. undergrad2 Says:
    Granted citizenship is a privilege and not a right.
  2. oknyua Says:
    YB Lim, don’t believe him. Though I don’t read the full reply (my bahasa is pasar bahasa), I know many Acheh and Jawa PR who has no skills other than being construction workers. PDRM’s check? No way. Check along the coastal areas of W Malaysia – all those Javanese and Acheh who has PR and Red IC.

Who wants PR? I can name you the agent in Kampong Jawa (where) who does this for you. She is of Acheh descend. Pay money lah.

  1. oknyua Says:

one missing qualification: You must know who.

  1. undergrad2 Says:
    YB Kit,

Please ask the Minister to provide a statistical breakdown of applicants according to:

1. Country of origin
2. Religion
3. Sex
4. Educational background

Approvals according to
1. Country of origin
2. Religion
3. Sex
4. Educational background
5. Number of years resident

Rejections according

1. Country of origin
2. Religion
3. Sex
4. Educational background
5. Number of years resident

  1. swee_ann_tweety Says:
    I have a friend who is 30 over years old. He was born in Malaysia. His father is Indonesian. His mother is Malaysian. He doesn’t believe in corruption. He doesn’t give in to bribe demands. He dislike corrupted people. Since his father is an Indonesian, his IC, is a “Red IC”. He has applied for a Malaysian Citizenship countless number of times. He is married to a Malaysian gal. He still does not have his citizenship. According to him, after submitting his applications, his applications apparently go missing somehow.

Don’t give eligible people NONSENSE answers. It really is disgusting to read and listen to NONSENSE answers

  1. mauriyaII Says:
    Whenever any issue, even as a routine thing as applying for a PR status, is brought to the attention of the Home Affairs Minister, what we hear is that everything is based on the security of the nation.

How are foreign wives of Malaysian citizens a danger to national security? Does the minister think that those wives who might have a number of children have nothing better to do than to plant C4 and blow up people?

The country faces brain-drain. Why not attract qualified people with the promise of PR status within a reasonable period of time, say 3 years, to bring in more brains to the country. What BN is doing is to allow the influx of Indons and Bangladeshi as well as Rohinyas because they are muslims even if they are not assets to the country.

BN and the UMNOputra mindset will never change. The world might change and move forward but not these idiots who are afraid of change. This is what happens to people with ‘crutch’ mentality.

  1. clearwater Says:
    The Home Minister’s reply is pathetic eyewash. It sounds like non-apologetic excuses for the current deliberate discriminatory practices in granting PR and citizenship to foreign spouses. Police checks do not take years; marriages of convenience are rare and not difficult to detect; applicants give up rather than fail to follow up after a cynical silence of 10 years or more in their applications. There is a lot of truth in the suspicion that certain ethnic and religious groups are more welcome than others; non- provision of vital statistical information on approved cases [as pointed out by undergrad2] invites such speculation. So does opaque and poorly written rules and guidelines. It is a fact that Malaysia’s immigration policy is human capital and skills deficient as well as selectively blind to its citizens’ well being. It is also a reflection of how badly this country has been run and how poorly policies are implemented.
  2. sheriff singh Says:

Many already qualified under the procedures and guidelines mentioned above but they are still “in process”. They are not told why and what they appear to be lacking, so they can’t rectify if necessary, so they wait in vain for years.

Only 19,511 in the past 20 years and more? This paltry figure speaks for itself.

But don’t forget to include the 800,000 that have gone through the easier Sabah route in the same period. The Sabah people are more “efficient” beating the government KPI by over 40 times. Less agony and despair there and more speedy too.

  1. Mr Smith Says:
    The minsiter should give the racial and religious breakdown of the successful applicants.
    Perhaps also their educational levels.
  2. sotong Says:
    Many people lives are made difficult or ruined for various reasons and national security and interest affected by backdoor processing……..any responsible Minister/s would have the decency to resign immediately.
  3. max2811 Says:
    Malaysian Immigration laws favours their cousins from next door. Doesn’t matter if they are killers, robbers or snatch thieves. As long as their names have a ‘bin’, no problem.
  1. Captain Says:
    My wife got her PR after 15 years. In between, the Immigration lost her files 3 times and new files were created, with reason they lost due to change of offices.

I have a friend who has stayed in this country for 55 years, married a local, produce 3 children , all of them professionals, own huge plantation properties. His appilcation for citizenship was rejected 3 times in 35 years including 3 appeals with the Ministers personally.

In contrast , I used to know of so many Indonesians in Segambut who get PR, some even citizenship , within 3 months of arriving in this country.

Thats Malaysian Govt. Policy ? what rubbish.

I have written in this blog about Pakistanis easily going to Sabah and getting Citizenships, even lately.


Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim interview in Bloomberg

Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim
Bloomberg Interview,

May 29 2008